roles of the sight selection wg include…

  • continuing to assess & interpret the physical needs of camp
  • manage all reservations, permits & site fees (approx $100)
  • research additional future sites & scout them out
  • keep written records of who, where, what & when
  • provide the organizing Cell with a few choices to consider & enough information to be able to choose well.

Ideas on how To Do:

1. Contact individual National Forest Service Offices to inquire with staff about their recommendations for site that contains our needs. *HQ may refer you to individual Ranger District Stations depending on info you want pertaining to particular sites.* (and we're not limited to the forests listed here. these are just the ones I put up with info I had.)

Mt Hood Head Quarters:
Sandy ,Oregon.

Willamette National Forest:
Willamette National Forest

Siskyou National Forest Head Quarters:
Grants Pass, Oregon

Umpqua National Forest:
Roseburg, Oregon
Umpqua Forest Service Website

Gifford Pinchot National Forest
Forest Headquarters
10600 N.E. 51st Circle
Vancouver, WA 98682
(360) 891-5000

1 1/2. Utilize the experience of folks you know who have already scouted for a group site. All of us know somebody who's organized or participated in a group camp for a school, youth group, church group, activist organization, club etc. There's good feedback there, free for the asking.

2. Individuals in Working group choose national forest to research and visit.

3. Contact HQ for information on potential sites giving them run-down of basic purpose and logistical needs. Get names of people you talk to in the forest system and talk to the person who handles the permits. Get their contact info — we'll need it later.

Talking points:

  • We are an annual wilderness spiritual retreat, part of Reclaiming, numbering in participants anywhere from 75 - 100, with no spectators.
  • Our logistical needs:
  • space for 100 plus campers
  • places to park dozens of vehicles (shuttle to parking area possibility)
  • access to water that can be filtered (stagnant pond not ideal)
  • ritual space requirements (space for 100 to gather day and night)
  • alter-abled accessibility (relatively even, 1/4 mile hike in)
  • nearby water for bathing/swimming (lake or stream)
  • space that can accomodate a 'container' / gatekeeping

4.Make list of potential sites
5. Visit sites before the heavy rains — needs to be completed by early November at the Latest!!

6. Take pictures and make notes to be compiled by working group before presented to whole organizing group.

Notes from the Site Visit this fall should include:__

  • time from major city or highway intersection. (Example: door to door my house in Portland to site = 3.5 hours. or. From Exit 35 off I-5, time to site is 2 hrs 45 minutes.)
  • road conditions and distance for turn offs with mile markers (Example: Turn Left onto Forest Road 37, maintained gravel road. After 4.6 miles, veer right onto FS road 3716, climbing in elevation, less maintained gravel road. After 2.8 miles, take sharp right turn onto dirt road, marked only by shot up forest service mile post sign.) awareness of hazards, proximity to busy roads, logging operations, etc
  • condition and length of trail (Is trail narrow? slanted? on the edge of a steep drop off? can dollies, wheel barrows or wagons fit on the trail safely? Is the trail a steep incline or decent? What is the elevation change from trail head to potential site? How many miles distance is trail from parking to site?)
  • describe camping options (Is this an established campground with fire rings and picnic tables? How many? Can the location logistically accommodate 80 - 90 tents? Is there enough flat ground for that many people to find sleeping spots?)
  • locate potential hearth space and describe (Is there flat ground for a kitchen, dish washing, communal play and gather space? Will the hearth space hold our All Camp Meeting? Is there a space we can create a web info space?)
  • describe ritual meadow and surrounding area (Is the ritual meadow in the middle of proposed camp? Is is a walk from the hearth? How far? Is the meadow relatively flat ground? Is it full of wildflowers or was it previously a clearcut? Is the meadow in a place that would be surrounded by tents / campers? Generalize size. Can the space hold a container?)
  • locate potential path sites (Can you find at least 6 spaces under the forest canopy for paths that can accommodate 7 - 20 participants? Can these areas have their own container for their days' work?)
  • shit (what are the conditions for dealing with our humanure? Depending on site, we may want to carry out our poop. What needs would we have if that is the case?)
  • water to drink and water to bathe / swim (describe the water situation. Is it a stagnant pond, small or large pond or lake? Is the water source a stream or river? can it safely accommodate children and animal friends swimming? Does it move fast or slow? Is the body of water the same to use for drinking water? Is there a spring on site? How far away is the spring from the potential hearth space? Is there a solid trail from one to the other or do we have to create one?

and if you got this far, i love you…

+Sites that don't work for us+
+Sites to be scouted+

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